Timeline for Travel SE Isn’t Very Welcoming. It’s Time for That to Change
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| May 30, 2018 at 12:17 | comment | added | bye | Perhaps get rid of downvotes! There's no such thing as a wrong answer - just a misunderstood answer! The best answers will hopefully have a higher score than the worst answers so you can still look at the top answers. Having said that, in this bid to increase site views to keep the investors happy, it's possible that the balance between "people who've been here for years, know the culture and can spot instantly spam/nonsense" and "people who've surfed and and by golly are going to make full use of their unlimited free time and internet access" are going to challenge that. | |
| May 18, 2018 at 9:32 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @ThorstenS.: Imagined offence is the sole responsibility of the imaginer. | |
| May 18, 2018 at 6:22 | comment | added | Thorsten S. | I must admit I like the idea. For most human activities inexperienced members (outsiders, children) are granted more leeway in their social actions until they have integrated. @LightnessRacesinOrbit: It does not matter if they are explained as non-personal/non-aggressive, the small pin prick is always there. Our brain is hardwired to look for even feeble feedback. | |
| May 16, 2018 at 9:49 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @NeanDerThal: That misteaches newcomers that downvotes are personal or "aggressive", which is absolutely not the case. Let's instead teach newcomers how the site actually works from the outset. Some new users post first questions that are well researched and thus well received, and these get upvotes. The meaning of upvotes vanishes if you can't get downvotes. | |
| May 16, 2018 at 5:22 | comment | added | Nean Der Thal | @LightnessRacesinOrbit I never said there should be downvotes, I said there shouldn't be downvotes to the very new users. There's always another less aggressive ways to give feedback to the new users, comments for example :) | |
| May 16, 2018 at 5:21 | comment | added | Nean Der Thal | @MarkMayo True, but to the comments only, not the posts. | |
| May 16, 2018 at 4:40 | comment | added | Mark Mayo Mod | Irony (I saw it last night on the mobile app) - FB is now testing downvote/upvotes: mashable.com/2018/04/30/facebook-downvote | |
| May 15, 2018 at 16:09 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | Positive feedback means literally nothing if negative feedback is not permitted. Downvotes are part of the bread and butter of Q&A. If you prefer an open forum or chatroom then you are of course free to use one of those! | |
| May 15, 2018 at 13:03 | comment | added | DTRT | The problem with Downvotes is the direct and inescapable implication that the target is wrong. This is why I vigorously challenge every uncommented Downvote because, sorry, the Downvotes are just wrong and misleading. There is no amount of explanation or wishful thinking that will change this perception. | |
| May 5, 2018 at 3:16 | comment | added | Nean Der Thal | @ZachLipton thanks for posting the link to that question, I was looking for sample to include and I didn't, now we have a clear example of what I am talking about. | |
| May 5, 2018 at 3:15 | comment | added | Nean Der Thal | @MarkMayo if I understand SE correctly, the system adds a downvote automatically once you flag a post as spam. So, that should be kept but a normal downvote shouldn't. It's just an idea but knowing how SE owners worship their model I think it will be close to impossible to change. | |
| May 4, 2018 at 5:48 | comment | added | Zach Lipton | Some of the downvotes that bother me most are the ones applied to questions or answers from new users people just don't seem to like. To pick a random recent example, this one, currently +4/-3 (and one of the upvotes is mine because it had a negative score and I thought it was undeserved). Sure, it's not an utterly wonderful question and it needed some editing and cleanup, but there's nothing about it that, IMHO, deserved three downvotes without comments. | |
| May 4, 2018 at 1:21 | comment | added | Mark Mayo Mod | I'd LOVE it if 'good' new users couldn't be downvoted, but I guess that would lead to problems with spammers and the like. Although I suppose they could be flagged. I'd prefer it if you downvote a post you're only allowed to do so if you add a comment. | |
| May 3, 2018 at 3:35 | comment | added | Zach Lipton | I agree that downvoting is very much discouraging to new users, and I certainly never do it to new users who ask a question asking for "the best" or anything like that. I do think it has some important role in emphasizing problematic answers, since site policy is generally to avoid deleting answers simply because they are wrong. Downvoting new users should be discouraged in most all circumstances, and your proposal is great in that regard, but there still needs to be some way beyond comments to say "hey, this answer is wrong or even outright dangerous and you shouldn't follow it." | |
| May 3, 2018 at 2:01 | history | answered | Nean Der Thal | CC BY-SA 4.0 |