Timeline for Can the community be less hostile to new questions?
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Jul 7, 2021 at 9:16 | comment | added | user29097 | My leaving this site cannot be a threat to anyone - I'm a nobody here, just trying to highlight an issue faced by a new asker. Closing a question that a user spent substantial time to research and get aligned with the site guidelines, now that's arguably a threat of causing their effort and time to be wasted. I did use the delete option you linked to, almost a day ago. It apparently takes 24 hours to delete the account. That's what I meant by "asked". Meanwhile I'm only replying because I received notifications while on other SEs. Ultimately it's your community, I have no axe to grind. | |
Jul 7, 2021 at 9:02 | comment | added | user29097 | This is precisely the problem with deleting comments! Someone deleted selective comments. I agreed there might be historical community reasons for doing that. But the only two comments they left on the question were for closing it, all the others were moved to chat. That's fairly suggestive. Later two comments were made in favour, which were deleted and not moved to chat. Now the entire comments are gone. What can I say except the mods ought to leave all the comments in, and in a chronological way? Like Caesar's wife, it's important for mods to consider if their decision appears fair as well. | |
Jul 7, 2021 at 8:40 | comment | added | Chris H | In fact, that's a pattern. You declare the mods' actions to misrepresent the conversation, but you misrepresent their actions. You declare other users to be hostile towards you (after giving well-intentioned and constructive advice that didn't happen to the kind you wanted), while you start accusing others of malicious behaviour. If you want your travel.SE account to be deleted, you can do that yourself here. There's no need to ask anybody. Frankly saying that almost sounds like the "implied threats" you were complaining about too. | |
Jul 7, 2021 at 8:33 | comment | added | Chris H | Your post complains that deletion of some comments left the conversation misrepresentative. There may have been some comments deleted before I saw them, I can't comment on them for obvious reasons. But now you say "other users' comments made in favour of it being on-topic were deleted" - there were also comments calling it off-topic which were deleted, and comments saying it's on-topic which were not deleted. You are misrepresenting things. | |
Jul 7, 2021 at 8:14 | comment | added | user29097 | Speaking specifically of my question, it was closed pursuant to the gatekeeping, and other users' comments made in favour of it being on-topic were deleted. QED. While there might be historical reasons behind these practices, the whole experience is quite unwelcoming and disrespectful to new askers' efforts. Yes my response was sharp, because I'm vocal. There might be those who stay on nevertheless, but I am certain there's a long tail of people who never ask another question because of this treatment. I myself have asked for my TSE account to be closed, so you have at least one example there. | |
Jul 7, 2021 at 5:39 | comment | added | Chris H | That would be one reasonable course of action, but I’m afraid I still simply don’t see the issue with an immediate short comment suggesting the other site. It’s perfectly common behaviour on stack exchange sites. I’ve left similar comments many times and seen plenty of those questions get answers on their original site. I suspect your interpretation is very uniquely your own. It’s particularly strange to me that you can think that comment hostile but apparently consider your own behaviour in response acceptable. | |
Jul 6, 2021 at 16:38 | comment | added | user29097 | My suggestion would be to not comment right away unless it's to clarify the question or to answer. Wait and give it a chance to get answers from others. If after a while there aren't enough answers, then suggest the other alternatives - "you can also try xx.SE if you aren't getting the answers you need". That way you aren't dissuading others from answering, and the asker also appreciates you for giving them a plan B after it's clear their plan A failed. | |
Jul 6, 2021 at 15:45 | comment | added | Chris H | Let’s make this a little more abstract. Don’t think about your question. Imagine that some time next week, I’m browsing the site, and I see a new question that straddles different topics. After reading the question, I think it would be more likely to get a good answer if asked on a different stack exchange site. What do you propose I should do? How can I best help this user to get a good answer to their question? | |
Jul 6, 2021 at 15:23 | comment | added | user29097 | Thanks for your time. As a new asker, I have no role in moving questions. Consequently when high-rep users immediately and publicly signal to other users that they feel a question is unworthy to remain in this SE, it does not benefit the asker at all. Au contraire, it builds public opinion against the question and discourages answers. There can be no greater way to negate the effort of the question-asker, intentional or not. | |
Jul 6, 2021 at 14:20 | history | answered | Chris H | CC BY-SA 4.0 |